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		<title>Comment on On Procrastination, the iPhone, and Grinding.be by Xianhang Zhang</title>
		<link>http://www.meme-hazard.org/blog/2009/09/01/on-procrastination-the-iphone-and-grinding-be/comment-page-1/#comment-238</link>
		<dc:creator>Xianhang Zhang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 03:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.bumblebeelabs.com/open-vs-closed/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://blog.bumblebeelabs.com/open-vs-closed/&lt;/a&gt; </description>
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		<title>Comment on On Procrastination, the iPhone, and Grinding.be by xorgnz</title>
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		<dc:creator>xorgnz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I do. It &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;is&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; a bad thing.  
  
There&#039;s nothing wrong with wanting to have money to do the things you want, but greed&#039;s a step beyond that. It&#039;s accumulation for accumulation&#039;s sake, with no care for effects on others. The meme that greed is virtuous is peculiarly western and wrong, IMGO. It&#039;s important, though, to note that I&#039;m talking about the extreme, not the moderate sort of desire for money. Capitalism works wonderfully as a means for distributing wealth efficiently, but it fails when a greedy minority manipulate the vulnerabilities of the technological and sociological context in which it operates in order to concentrate that wealth in their own hands.   
  
As for the designers motivated by money and other people supported by instituations derived from incentivized innovation, I think you missed my point in the first paragraph about there being a balance. Economic incentives definitely spur innovation, and that is a good thing, for the reasons you list, and more. I&#039;m not talking about that - I&#039;m talking about abusive corporatism, which is distinctly different from capitalism. Incidentally, an open marketplace is far more competitive and offers far more diverse opportunities than a closed one, so if you agree that innovation is a good thing, you&#039;re either automatically agreeing with the open position or doubting one of the premisses.  
  
It sounds like you&#039;re misreading me as a hippie of some kind, which I&#039;m definitely not :)  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I do. It <em><strong>is</strong></em> a bad thing.  </p>
<p>There&#039;s nothing wrong with wanting to have money to do the things you want, but greed&#039;s a step beyond that. It&#039;s accumulation for accumulation&#039;s sake, with no care for effects on others. The meme that greed is virtuous is peculiarly western and wrong, IMGO. It&#039;s important, though, to note that I&#039;m talking about the extreme, not the moderate sort of desire for money. Capitalism works wonderfully as a means for distributing wealth efficiently, but it fails when a greedy minority manipulate the vulnerabilities of the technological and sociological context in which it operates in order to concentrate that wealth in their own hands.   </p>
<p>As for the designers motivated by money and other people supported by instituations derived from incentivized innovation, I think you missed my point in the first paragraph about there being a balance. Economic incentives definitely spur innovation, and that is a good thing, for the reasons you list, and more. I&#039;m not talking about that &#8211; I&#039;m talking about abusive corporatism, which is distinctly different from capitalism. Incidentally, an open marketplace is far more competitive and offers far more diverse opportunities than a closed one, so if you agree that innovation is a good thing, you&#039;re either automatically agreeing with the open position or doubting one of the premisses.  </p>
<p>It sounds like you&#039;re misreading me as a hippie of some kind, which I&#039;m definitely not :)</p>
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		<title>Comment on On Procrastination, the iPhone, and Grinding.be by Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You say &#039;greedy&#039; like it&#039;s a bad thing :) 
 
So what happens to the designers that are motivated by the tangible rewards of the market? What happens to the non-designers that also receive the tangible rewards of the market... the fellow working in the Apple Store, the shipping clerk, the folks in marketing? What about Justin Long? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say &#039;greedy&#039; like it&#039;s a bad thing :) </p>
<p>So what happens to the designers that are motivated by the tangible rewards of the market? What happens to the non-designers that also receive the tangible rewards of the market&#8230; the fellow working in the Apple Store, the shipping clerk, the folks in marketing? What about Justin Long?</p>
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		<title>Comment on On Motivational Momentum by [ meme - hazard ] &#187; Blog Archive &#187; On Procrastination, the iPhone, and Grinding.be</title>
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		<dc:creator>[ meme - hazard ] &#187; Blog Archive &#187; On Procrastination, the iPhone, and Grinding.be</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 21:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] #include&lt;speculative comments about motivation&gt; [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on System Dynamics Conf. &#8211; III &#8211; Day 1 by System Dynamics Conf. – III – Day 1 &#124; Adobe Tutorials</title>
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		<dc:creator>System Dynamics Conf. – III – Day 1 &#124; Adobe Tutorials</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The day begun with a keynote by Dennis Meadows on his ‘Limits to Growth’ work.  Here is the original post: System Dynamics Conf. – III – Day 1 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The day begun with a keynote by Dennis Meadows on his ‘Limits to Growth’ work.  Here is the original post: System Dynamics Conf. – III – Day 1 [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on System Dynamics Conf. &#8211; II &#8211; Day 0 (PhD Colloquium) by System Dynamics Conf. – II – Day 0 (PhD Colloquium) &#124; Adobe Tutorials</title>
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		<dc:creator>System Dynamics Conf. – II – Day 0 (PhD Colloquium) &#124; Adobe Tutorials</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 03:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sunday was the PhD colloquium.  Here is the original: System Dynamics Conf. – II – Day 0 (PhD Colloquium) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sunday was the PhD colloquium.  Here is the original: System Dynamics Conf. – II – Day 0 (PhD Colloquium) [...]</p>
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		<dc:creator>RalfLippold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 20:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GREAT to see system dynamics spreading even further and beyond. Now also referenced on Twitter #ISDC09. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GREAT to see system dynamics spreading even further and beyond. Now also referenced on Twitter #ISDC09.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Against a Diamond Sky &#8211; Tales from Orion&#8217;s Arm #1 by Darth Brooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darth Brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 05:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Long-time OA fan and lurker here.  Keep fighting the good fight! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long-time OA fan and lurker here.  Keep fighting the good fight!</p>
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		<title>Comment on System Dynamics Conf. &#8211; VI &#8211; The Rest by xorgnz</title>
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		<dc:creator>xorgnz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 08:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope, just a grad student..  </description>
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		<title>Comment on System Dynamics Conf. &#8211; VI &#8211; The Rest by Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 05:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you a professional journalist? You write very well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you a professional journalist? You write very well.</p>
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